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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (Ashish)</title>
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		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (Ashish)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had written here earlier about a credit card fraud. I learnt now that ICICI Bank's fraud investigation is a sham!&lt;BR/&gt;http://crashpodel.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/icici-banks-credit-card-fraud-investigation-is-a-sham/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had written here earlier about a credit card fraud. I learnt now that ICICI Bank&#8217;s fraud investigation is a sham!<br /><a href="http://crashpodel.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/icici-banks-credit-card-fraud-investigation-is-a-sham/" rel="nofollow">http://crashpodel.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/icici-banks-credit-card-fraud-investigation-is-a-sham/</a></p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (DANUS)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PROCRASTINATION Warrants FINANCIAL despair, disparity&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Procrastination is the deferment or avoidance of an action or task to a later time. For the person procrastinating this may result in stress, a sense of guilt, the loss of productivity, the creation of crisis, and the chagrin of others for not fulfilling one's responsibilities or commitments. While it is normal for individuals to procrastinate to some degree, it becomes a problem when it impedes normal functioning. Chronic procrastination may be a sign of an underlying psychological or physiological disorder.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The genaral feeling with all the banksâ€™ authority, even after prolonged trnsactions by way of  holding accounts, show dismay, dismal and dissimilar mark and remark, when it comes to loan request as required in prudence. It is almost begged out in alms. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One such my experience with ICICI is explained as below. The evil side of every market is exposed.&lt;BR/&gt;What is the reply for the following lines to which I can produce evidences within ICICI records&lt;BR/&gt;History for the geographical wonder of the Taj Mahal, took thousands of labour &#038; 2 decades of time.&lt;BR/&gt;To build my first floor it took 19-Feb-2007 to 23-May-2007 to get financial advance, (as on23-05-2007). Pl. note: That all my necessary documents already with the bank for over 5 years.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 25 quantified Hum Hain Nah people give repeated assurances and failing on it ever &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 10 Customer Service Officers take details of our ID, and never solve or convincible&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 6 Customer Service Managers whose role is something intended to deceive and deliberate&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 3 months to sustain initial disbursement of Home Loans Made Easy when &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 13 days Sanction took from application date and &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 31 days customer to get the Sanction Letter&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 48 hours to Sanction as advertised by a bank is just for deployment.&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 158 minutes of STD calls from Mumbai to me, sometimes from me&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 50 hours of calls made to call centres by me, and about &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 600 times of local calls from me to Pancha Pandavargal in Masood, Manoj, Ranjit, Govind and Viswanath&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 4 dozens of e-mailed correspondences, either side&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 95 days of torture &#038; turmoil to the customer (+3 days to get credited &#038; holiday in between = 100 days)  &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 1 dozen of refuted replies from depressive a renowned bankâ€™s-Chennai staffs&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 2 Home Loan Documents twice signed in duplicate&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 2 indemnity bonds of altered dates&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 2 sanction letters? Second one EMI amount changed&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 2 dozen times of meeting with agency people for all coordination &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 8 SRâ€™s booked and none of them closed yet to my knowledge&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 5 cheques were replaced for wrong filling by your staffs&lt;BR/&gt;Â· 8 visits by me to the local bank offices to get &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 1 cheque of &lt;BR/&gt;Â· 1, 50, 000/- INR &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A monumental effort is it not. The bank can proudly display this in their advertisements.&lt;BR/&gt;Of course, if you put value to all the above it would equal out the product and net result. Outdone&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dear readers&lt;BR/&gt;This bank holds good and apparently serves better to you to have 4 a/cs thus best describes you are not less than a crorepathy / millionaire.&lt;BR/&gt;When persons like me find to hold and operate one a/c, it is indeed, where the bank has failed to consider our unfortunate financial constraints.&lt;BR/&gt;Those who are lucky and felt the satisfaction as one in a million, certainly not a testimony to provide a purpose, role, or function of the bank for the people of this country.&lt;BR/&gt;The bank has so many negative remarks from length and breadth this nation and we must understand the heat with which the people of our country are burnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PROCRASTINATION Warrants FINANCIAL despair, disparity</p>
<p>Procrastination is the deferment or avoidance of an action or task to a later time. For the person procrastinating this may result in stress, a sense of guilt, the loss of productivity, the creation of crisis, and the chagrin of others for not fulfilling one&#8217;s responsibilities or commitments. While it is normal for individuals to procrastinate to some degree, it becomes a problem when it impedes normal functioning. Chronic procrastination may be a sign of an underlying psychological or physiological disorder.</p>
<p>The genaral feeling with all the banksâ€™ authority, even after prolonged trnsactions by way of  holding accounts, show dismay, dismal and dissimilar mark and remark, when it comes to loan request as required in prudence. It is almost begged out in alms. </p>
<p>One such my experience with ICICI is explained as below. The evil side of every market is exposed.<br />What is the reply for the following lines to which I can produce evidences within ICICI records<br />History for the geographical wonder of the Taj Mahal, took thousands of labour &#038; 2 decades of time.<br />To build my first floor it took 19-Feb-2007 to 23-May-2007 to get financial advance, (as on23-05-2007). Pl. note: That all my necessary documents already with the bank for over 5 years.</p>
<p>Â· 25 quantified Hum Hain Nah people give repeated assurances and failing on it ever <br />Â· 10 Customer Service Officers take details of our ID, and never solve or convincible<br />Â· 6 Customer Service Managers whose role is something intended to deceive and deliberate<br />Â· 3 months to sustain initial disbursement of Home Loans Made Easy when <br />Â· 13 days Sanction took from application date and <br />Â· 31 days customer to get the Sanction Letter<br />Â· 48 hours to Sanction as advertised by a bank is just for deployment.<br />Â· 158 minutes of STD calls from Mumbai to me, sometimes from me<br />Â· 50 hours of calls made to call centres by me, and about <br />Â· 600 times of local calls from me to Pancha Pandavargal in Masood, Manoj, Ranjit, Govind and Viswanath<br />Â· 4 dozens of e-mailed correspondences, either side<br />Â· 95 days of torture &#038; turmoil to the customer (+3 days to get credited &#038; holiday in between = 100 days)  <br />Â· 1 dozen of refuted replies from depressive a renowned bankâ€™s-Chennai staffs<br />Â· 2 Home Loan Documents twice signed in duplicate<br />Â· 2 indemnity bonds of altered dates<br />Â· 2 sanction letters? Second one EMI amount changed<br />Â· 2 dozen times of meeting with agency people for all coordination <br />Â· 8 SRâ€™s booked and none of them closed yet to my knowledge<br />Â· 5 cheques were replaced for wrong filling by your staffs<br />Â· 8 visits by me to the local bank offices to get <br />Â· 1 cheque of <br />Â· 1, 50, 000/- INR </p>
<p>A monumental effort is it not. The bank can proudly display this in their advertisements.<br />Of course, if you put value to all the above it would equal out the product and net result. Outdone</p>
<p>Dear readers<br />This bank holds good and apparently serves better to you to have 4 a/cs thus best describes you are not less than a crorepathy / millionaire.<br />When persons like me find to hold and operate one a/c, it is indeed, where the bank has failed to consider our unfortunate financial constraints.<br />Those who are lucky and felt the satisfaction as one in a million, certainly not a testimony to provide a purpose, role, or function of the bank for the people of this country.<br />The bank has so many negative remarks from length and breadth this nation and we must understand the heat with which the people of our country are burnt.</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (fight)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya its really true,, when icici bank was started and back 4 to 5 yrs ago that was really alluring and benefits were really good... first of all atm was biggest surprise and exciting. i always used to go to atm nearby my house to withdraw even Rs.100 oh!!! my goodness what a wonderfull experience was that and most important was to get rid of standing in long queue of local banks..... and to deal with government babus.... &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;but when icici introduced some limitations on withdrawal through atm without intimating to customers and i became victim. I HAD TO PAY RS. 500 as penalty.. on the very next day when i got monthly statement. i closed my account....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya its really true,, when icici bank was started and back 4 to 5 yrs ago that was really alluring and benefits were really good&#8230; first of all atm was biggest surprise and exciting. i always used to go to atm nearby my house to withdraw even Rs.100 oh!!! my goodness what a wonderfull experience was that and most important was to get rid of standing in long queue of local banks&#8230;.. and to deal with government babus&#8230;. </p>
<p>but when icici introduced some limitations on withdrawal through atm without intimating to customers and i became victim. I HAD TO PAY RS. 500 as penalty.. on the very next day when i got monthly statement. i closed my account&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (ankurg)</title>
		<link>http://youthcurry.mobiforumz.com/2007/04/10/hum-hain-na-yeah-right/#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (ankurg)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://nirnimesh.blogspot.com/2007/04/shitty-bank.html&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;may be this can help in finding solace that all banks are like that or may be in other words no bank is 100% free of unhappy customers.</description>
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<p>may be this can help in finding solace that all banks are like that or may be in other words no bank is 100% free of unhappy customers.</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (aditya)</title>
		<link>http://youthcurry.mobiforumz.com/2007/04/10/hum-hain-na-yeah-right/#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (aditya)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rashmi,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;if you can do it for just one post, please go and change your HTML templete on blogger to show it as 34 complaints, rather than 34 comments... would be a tad more relevant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rashmi,</p>
<p>if you can do it for just one post, please go and change your HTML templete on blogger to show it as 34 complaints, rather than 34 comments&#8230; would be a tad more relevant</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (aditya)</title>
		<link>http://youthcurry.mobiforumz.com/2007/04/10/hum-hain-na-yeah-right/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (aditya)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good shot jonathan, vauxhall used cars!.. i like your spirit...</description>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (E Pradeep)</title>
		<link>http://youthcurry.mobiforumz.com/2007/04/10/hum-hain-na-yeah-right/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (E Pradeep)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ex-ICICIan who has worked in their retail banking business, I do understand the innumerable complaints that we used to get from across the country. I would not say that the bank does not have customer-focus; at least, we do know internally, the premium attached to customer service. But where the bank has lost out is by focussing all its attention on sales and marketing. There is just not enough training given to handle products which keep tumbling out of the heads of MBAs. So, every week you have a new product that is launched, either to meet your appraisal demands or merely to stay ahead in the market. The attitude has always been of being the first mover; we will handle the problems part separately. Customer service does not attract the best talent in the industry. Being a part of the call centre and handle customer calls is something that is not part of any training; that is left to the numerous Phone Banking officers who are recruited. How will the person, who's never ever received a customer feedback, in a position to understand the bottlenecks in his amazing product. ICICI was always the Australian cricket team never the Brazilian football team -you don't like it but you know they are the No. 1 guys.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Coming to public sector banks, I have always been extremely disappointed by their attitudes. After being abused by a Corporation bank official, I wrote to the MD in anger and only then my problem was heard, not even resolved.  The moment my problem was finally resolved, I shut down the account. My SBH internet banking account has not been activated for more than 7 months now and I have got tired of visiting the branch every week. It seems there is no one who knows how to handle the query and the Manager gave me a number whom to contact to deal with this issue but no one ever lifts the phone there. I donâ€™t buy the idea of PSBs being better merely because they donâ€™t have frills but do the work. The attitude is highly deplorable and my experience has made me extremely wary of approaching them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ex-ICICIan who has worked in their retail banking business, I do understand the innumerable complaints that we used to get from across the country. I would not say that the bank does not have customer-focus; at least, we do know internally, the premium attached to customer service. But where the bank has lost out is by focussing all its attention on sales and marketing. There is just not enough training given to handle products which keep tumbling out of the heads of MBAs. So, every week you have a new product that is launched, either to meet your appraisal demands or merely to stay ahead in the market. The attitude has always been of being the first mover; we will handle the problems part separately. Customer service does not attract the best talent in the industry. Being a part of the call centre and handle customer calls is something that is not part of any training; that is left to the numerous Phone Banking officers who are recruited. How will the person, who&#8217;s never ever received a customer feedback, in a position to understand the bottlenecks in his amazing product. ICICI was always the Australian cricket team never the Brazilian football team -you don&#8217;t like it but you know they are the No. 1 guys.</p>
<p>Coming to public sector banks, I have always been extremely disappointed by their attitudes. After being abused by a Corporation bank official, I wrote to the MD in anger and only then my problem was heard, not even resolved.  The moment my problem was finally resolved, I shut down the account. My SBH internet banking account has not been activated for more than 7 months now and I have got tired of visiting the branch every week. It seems there is no one who knows how to handle the query and the Manager gave me a number whom to contact to deal with this issue but no one ever lifts the phone there. I donâ€™t buy the idea of PSBs being better merely because they donâ€™t have frills but do the work. The attitude is highly deplorable and my experience has made me extremely wary of approaching them.</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (Monsoon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (Monsoon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not see any easy solutions for these. And ICICI Bank is no exception. Customer service on phone is a real pain. It is a well known fact that once you are a customer, the treatment is different from that if you are a prospect. But it was a shock to know that at times, even if you are a prospect wanting to buy a service, you have to deal with similar service. Check this article published in The Brand Reporter.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.agencyfaqs.com/news/stories/2006/10/12/16167.html&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see any easy solutions for these. And ICICI Bank is no exception. Customer service on phone is a real pain. It is a well known fact that once you are a customer, the treatment is different from that if you are a prospect. But it was a shock to know that at times, even if you are a prospect wanting to buy a service, you have to deal with similar service. Check this article published in The Brand Reporter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.agencyfaqs.com/news/stories/2006/10/12/16167.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.agencyfaqs.com/news/stories/2006/10/12/16167.html</a></p>
<p>Unny</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (Jonathan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (Jonathan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customer services generally sucks in all departments, never mind the bank.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The phone call always costs, your always on hold for about 20 minutes, even at 2 in the morning.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The people never really answer your questions and often just 'fob' you off with some lies to get you to go away, especially on technical calls.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Customer services might as well be called 'waste of time' or 'liars on a phone'&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I run a used vauxhall car part and i try to give my customers the best customer support since all calls come to me and i deal with them on a personal one to one basis, and calls are only local rate.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I know my used vauxhall car part business will be small compared to a bank, but the customer service team could be more interested in my problem.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And as you said you might as well walk into the branch and wait in line. at least then you will speak to someone who can help.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Jonathan (&lt;A HREF="http://www.carsparefinder.co.uk/Car/VAUXHALL/" REL="nofollow"&gt;used vauxhall car part&lt;/A&gt; manager)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customer services generally sucks in all departments, never mind the bank.</p>
<p>The phone call always costs, your always on hold for about 20 minutes, even at 2 in the morning.</p>
<p>The people never really answer your questions and often just &#8216;fob&#8217; you off with some lies to get you to go away, especially on technical calls.</p>
<p>Customer services might as well be called &#8216;waste of time&#8217; or &#8216;liars on a phone&#8217;</p>
<p>I run a used vauxhall car part and i try to give my customers the best customer support since all calls come to me and i deal with them on a personal one to one basis, and calls are only local rate.</p>
<p>I know my used vauxhall car part business will be small compared to a bank, but the customer service team could be more interested in my problem.</p>
<p>And as you said you might as well walk into the branch and wait in line. at least then you will speak to someone who can help.</p>
<p>Jonathan (<a HREF="http://www.carsparefinder.co.uk/Car/VAUXHALL/" REL="nofollow">used vauxhall car part</a> manager)</p>
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		<title>By: noreply@blogger.com (Amit)</title>
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		<dc:creator>noreply@blogger.com (Amit)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May be, just may be, they figured out that you weren't a very profitable customer, and wanted to kick you out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be, just may be, they figured out that you weren&#8217;t a very profitable customer, and wanted to kick you out!</p>
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